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to wrestle with a pig

to wrestle with a pig

9.3
To argue with someone who will not listen and waste your time
  • idiom
  • Offensive
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  • Debating internet trolls usually ends up being like wrestling with a pig.

Examples

  • Whenever I try to complain to customer service, it feels like wrestling with a pig.

  • He warned her that arguing with him would just be wrestling with a pig.

  • Don't wrestle with a pig!

  • She is always wrestling with a pig over trivial matters.

  • Arguing with unreasonable people is often like wrestling with a pig because you get nowhere.

  • Trying to convince a stubborn friend about that topic was just wrestling with a pig.

  • Working with uncooperative colleagues can feel like wrestling with a pig with no positive outcome.

Synonyms

to beef
vsto wrestle with a pig
  • Slang
59 8.4

To complain in an angry way about something

is a pointless back and forth with an unreasonable person rather than complaint
to bicker
vsto wrestle with a pig
36 4.1

Argue again and again with someone about small unimportant things

is a futile fight with an unreasonable person rather than meaningful disagreement
to quarrel
vsto wrestle with a pig
35 2.6

To argue angrily with someone about small things

is a pointless or futile argument often with someone unreasonable
to butt heads
vsto wrestle with a pig
  • Informal
13 6.3

To argue strongly with each other

is a futile argument with an unreasonable person rather than a strong clash
to wrangle
vsto wrestle with a pig
6 6.8

To argue loudly for a long time

is instead a pointless fight with an unreasonable person rather than just noisy arguing
to lock horns
vsto wrestle with a pig
  • Informal
5 5.1

To argue strongly with someone about something

is more about pointless, wasted argument with someone unreasonable than strong conflict
to pettifog
vsto wrestle with a pig
  • Archaic
9.9

Argue about small, unimportant details and waste time

is a pointless dispute with someone unreasonable rather than dishonest quibbling

Antonyms

To avoid getting involved in an argument or fight

How Pointless

to wrestle with a pig
  • Offensive
9.3
to talk to a brick wall
  • Informal
1 7.0
to go round in circles
  • Informal
1 5.2

Surface Forms

wrestle with a pig infinitive
wrestled with a pig past participle
wrestling with a pig present participle
wrestles with a pig third person singular

Morphology

wrestle + with + a + pig

The literal image of physically wrestling with a pig conveys a messy, pointless struggle that a B1 learner who knows 'wrestle' and 'pig' can plausibly infer; the particle 'with' and the article add no obscuring meaning. However, the specific pragmatic sense — that engaging in argument with an unreasonable person is futile and demeaning — is an idiomatic extension of that image and requires cultural/pragmatic knowledge beyond simple compositionality.

Etymology

Wrestle with a pig comes from the image of someone trying to wrestle a stubborn pig, which only leaves the person dirty while the pig enjoys the fight. That's why the saying means 'to get into a pointless argument with someone who won't be reasonable'.