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neither here nor there

neither here nor there

2 6.7
Not important to the main point
  • idiom
translation icon : irrelevante
  • This may be neither here nor there but I've got to say it.

OK, so I'm neither here nor there with this.

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Examples

  • When she brought up the weather, it was neither here nor there since we were focused on our work deadline.

  • What I think about you is neither here nor there.

  • It's neither here nor there.

  • That is neither here nor there.

  • But that is neither here nor there.

    Fiction book (1994)
  • That's neither here nor there.

  • Well, that's neither here nor there.

  • That's neither here nor there.

  • His reasons for leaving the meeting were neither here nor there to the main discussion about the project's future.

  • The details of the catering were neither here nor there when we needed to finalize the guest list.

Synonyms

irrelevant
vsneither here nor there
355 3.6

Not related to the subject people are discussing or to the main point

expresses the same lack of importance in informal phrases
nothing to see here
vsneither here nor there
  • Informal
4 7.4

A phrase people say to tell others nothing interesting or worrying is happening

expresses irrelevance more neutrally, not as a public dismissal
no there there
vsneither here nor there
  • Literature
1 9.9

Something that has no real substance or important facts

means lacking importance rather than lacking detail or proof
totally irrelephant
vsneither here nor there
  • Slang
9.9

Completely not related to the subject, said as a joke

says the same lack of importance in a neutral way
neither fish, flesh, nor good red herring
vsneither here nor there
  • Archaic
9.9

An unclear thing that does not help you understand or decide

focuses only on being not important rather than on ambiguity

Antonyms

1.0

A person or thing that matters a lot

592 3.3

Closely connected to what people are talking about or doing

58 4.9

Connected to the main topic or situation

How Relevant

crucial
469 3.6
important
1.0
relevant
592 3.3
minor
600 2.4
neither here nor there
2 6.7
irrelevant
355 3.6

Surface Forms

Morphology

neither + here + nor + there

The literal parts ('neither', 'here', 'nor', 'there') signal exclusion from both 'here' and 'there', which gives a spatial clue that something does not belong or is not applicable to the current matter. However, the conventionalized meaning 'irrelevant' is a metaphorical, idiomatic extension of that spatial sense and may not be fully predictable for a B1 learner without prior exposure, so it is only partially transparent.

Etymology

The idiom neither here nor there may come from a simple picture: something that is not here and not there, so it is nowhere useful. So, it means 'not important'.