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and then some

and then some

30 5.2
More than expected or mentioned
  • idiom
  • Informal
translation icon : y mucho más
  • Make Mr Best here his money back, and then some.
  • get that and then some
  • money and then some
  • yes, and then some

Examples

  • Those who held on had made their money back and then some within three years.

  • The fundraiser exceeded its goal by a large margin, raising thousands of dollars and then some.

  • I just want to live the type of life you have and then some.

    Blog text (15)
  • Everything that could go wrong had, and then some.

    Fiction book (1996)
  • It's a bunch of bath stuff, some kitchen stuff and then some clothing.

  • The bowl is big enough to seat twenty thousand people, and then some.

    Academic text (2001)
  • We got some delicious Mexican food and then some beer provided by New Belgium.

  • You'll surely be able to hold your own and then some in the conversation.

    Blog text (13)
  • The room itself could easily have swallowed all of her apartment in Manhattan, and then some.

    Fiction book (2002)
  • It was a success, we hit our goal and then some, and we are so grateful to everybody who donated.

Surface Forms

and then some positive

Morphology

and + then + some

The constituents 'and' (addition) plus 'some' (an unspecified extra amount) give a clear cue that something extra is being added, so a learner could plausibly infer that the phrase means 'and more' or 'even more'. However, the particle 'then' does not carry its usual temporal sense here and the phrase functions as a fixed colloquial intensifier, so the precise idiomatic force is not fully predictable without exposure.

Etymology

And then some comes from a simple image of adding extras: you say then and then add some more on top of that, as if there is even more than you first counted. So, it means 'and even more'.